@offby1 @pradyunsg @glyph @chrisjrn @webology @hynek @coderanger
Not for nothing, but we've been very careful about not tying anything tied to one corporate org into PyPI's external footprint. So yes, we use Fastly, but we could switch without it impacting users.
This is basically the opposite of client side tools, where migrations take 10+ years.
@offby1 @pradyunsg @glyph @chrisjrn @webology @hynek @coderanger
Just take a look at how long it took to break the "lock in" that setuptools had, and afaict uv doesn't _appear_ to be engaging the standards processes (I could have missed it!), which feels kinda very old Microsoft, "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish".
@dstufft @pradyunsg @glyph @chrisjrn @webology @hynek @coderanger in fairness to Astral, the packaging standards process has broken many a spirit over the years. I'm not surprised they'd consider just doing the thing and letting the userbase sort out whether it makes sense.
@offby1 @dstufft @pradyunsg @glyph @chrisjrn @webology @hynek @coderanger
Astral folk are very much engaging in packaging PEP discussions on d.p.o. For example, Charlie is one of the most frequent posters on the recent lockfiles topic:
https://discuss.python.org/t/pep-751-lock-files-again/59173/239 They were also at the packaging summit this year at PyCon US.
