@charliermarsh @freakboy3742 @jacob @sgillies I have heard you say as much on podcasts, and this *could* be quite a sustainable path forward, but the specifics of what and how are actually pretty important. you want to go up against Artifactory and friends, but it’s quite possible that in the course of doing so, you discover that users don’t care about Python so much as Docker, and that makes you heavily prioritize a linux-container workflow, which cuts off native app development at the knees

@glyph asking Charlie to share specific business plans and ideas is super unfair. There’s real advantage to getting to test stuff out and iterate privately; developing a business model in the open is risky as fuck. It’s fine if you want to withhold judgement but I think right now at this early stage you’re being unfair. @charliermarsh @freakboy3742 @sgillies

@jacob @charliermarsh @freakboy3742 @sgillies I realize “the specifics are important” could imply the imperative “give me the specifics!” But that’s not what I was trying to say :).

@glyph @jacob @charliermarsh @freakboy3742 @sgillies I have the position that it does not matter and the PSF/core python should act as if astral turns into a burning pile of flames. (Which to be clear, I neither hope nor expects). A lot of open source software was build by failing companies and we still benefit from all the work that went into it.

@glyph yeah you did and I’m sorry for jumping on you before reading the whole thread. I’m just feeling kinda frustrated at the way this conversation is going and I took it out on you. Sorry again. @charliermarsh @freakboy3742 @sgillies

@jacob @charliermarsh @freakboy3742 @sgillies honestly if Charlie said “here is exactly what we will be doing for the next five years, I promise” I might be considerably *more* suspicious, there’s no way that could be committed to publicly right now