@jacob @freakboy3742 Second mover, moving in across the board, is that what you're saying?
@sgillies @jacob … no? Astral is hardly the *second* mover here - cf pipenv, poetry, pdm, etc etc. But, they’re the first one that has been *funded*, which means it’s not “2 folks fixing bugs on weekends”, it’s “a whole team writing code full time with a purpose”. That makes a *big* difference to the rate of progress. *That* is the point.
You can question whether the money poses a strategic risk if/when it goes away; but you can’t argue the money yields *progress*.
@freakboy3742 @sgillies @jacob Weren’t there funded teams working on pip/pipenv and the likes?
The leadership and vision (aka product management) are more key than the money. Money without that doesn’t do that much and for something as specialized as this, it may be rather difficult to buy vision no matter what amount of money you throw at the problem.